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was readin manga and wonderin if naruto is tryin to pull off a chidori rasengan right now? and isnt naruto only wind elemental not lightning so how is he the chidori part?


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I think that you donīt need any specific chakra to pull out Chidori, because Sasuke is fire type and he could pull it out. Also, lightning isnīt a chakra type. The main chakra types are: wind, fire, water and earth. For example, ice (which Haku used) is a bloodline ability, composed of water+wind. Yamato uses wood, composed of earth+water, an abbility he got thanks to Yondaimeīs gens. But Rasengan (and Chidori) donīt need any specific chakra type.


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woa.... you do amaze me dude....... You can be the be one of the COUNCIL already...hehehe


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yah but kakashi was also saying how sasuke is fire and lightning member the whole piece of paper and how it crumpled for kakashi showin that he was mainly lighting and the paper cut for naruto which meant he was wind.


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you are actually wrong this time, correojon jajaaj

1- Naruto is not trying to do a chidori rasengan. He is just trying to do a wind-Rasengan ^^.

2- Sasuke IS lightning-natured. And Fire-natured. Two of them, just like many ninjas.

3- The main types of chakra are: Fire, Earth, Water, Wind, Lightning... You forgot the last one ajajaja


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i think hes new atatck will be a rasagen added with wind charkra and it will send many rasagen flying.think about it,50 shodow clones send 100 flying rasgens.Instent death.


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hahaha Laughing


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1- Naruto is not trying to do a chidori rasengan. He is just trying to do a wind-Rasengan ^^.

2- Sasuke IS lightning-natured. And Fire-natured. Two of them, just like many ninjas.

3- The main types of chakra are: Fire, Earth, Water, Wind, Lightning... You forgot the last one ajajaja

Haha, true Smile

But about #1: I think that what Naruto is trying to do IS a chidori-rasengan, even though his chidori will use wind instead of lightning. But itīs the same technique (the chidori part I mean).


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- Naruto is not trying to do a chidori rasengan. He is just trying to do a wind-Rasengan ^^.
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I think that what Naruto is trying to do IS a chidori-rasengan, even though his chidori will use wind instead of lightning. But itīs the same technique (the chidori part I mean).


ooooooooo guess i read it wrong Confused thats kool that he tryin a wind natured chidori or rasengan kinda confused which 1 hes tryin lol thx for info guys Very Happy


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chidori:
This jutsu is Kakashi Hatake's only original technique, though he now uses an S-ranked version known as the Raikiri. He created it around the time he was promoted to Jonin, and later taught it to Sasuke Uchiha. This jutsu channels a large concentration of chakra to the user's arm. The amount of chakra is so large that it becomes visible to the naked eye as a ball of electricity. In fact, the technique actually alters the nature of the user's chakra, effectively converting it into electricity. Once the technique is completed, the user charges forward and stabs their enemy with it. This jutsu rarely fails to kill the enemy. As a side effect of the conversion process, the large amount of chakra, and the speed at which the user moves, this technique makes a loud noise similar to many birds chirping, hence the name (if the user is not in motion, it merely makes a electric crackling sound). This technique is classified as an assassination technique, despite the loud noise it produces, because of the speed at which it is performed.

Because of the high concentration of chakra, and the speed at which the attack is done, the chidori can break through almost any defense; however, the speed at which the attack must be done, combined with the fact that the user must run in a straight line, causes a tunnel vision-like effect for the user. This allows their enemy to easily counter the attack, making it a potentially lethal move for the user. Though this drawback would seem to make learning the technique fairly pointless, Sasuke and Kakashi are able to avoid the drawback because of their Sharingan eyes, which take in every detail regardless of how fast the user is moving. As an additional drawback, the large amount of chakra required limits its use to a few times a day (two for Sasuke, four for Kakashi). These numbers are undoubtedly higher in Part II. Sasuke can manage one more than normal with the use of his cursed seal. Should the user attempt to go beyond their limit, all of their chakra will be drained and their very life force could go along with it, killing them.

rasengan

is an A-ranked technique invented by the Fourth Hokage after three years of training. It requires a very high level of chakra control. For training purposes, teaching the technique is broken into three steps. First, the user has to learn to pop a water balloon with their chakra. Second, they must do the same with a solid rubber ball. Finally, the user has to form a complete Spiraling Sphere by combining what they learned in the previous two steps. A regular balloon is often used to act as the shell. In Part II, Naruto develops an improved version known as the Ōdama Rasengan.

The rasengan incorporates the chakra control learned from the tree-climbing and water-walking exercises to create a ball of concentrated, spinning chakra in the user's hand that is slightly larger than a baseball. The rasenganis somewhat akin to the chidori, but arguably stronger and less dangerous to use. Additionally, the rasengan isn't always fatal, though the target of it could certainly be killed by whatever they crash into after they are propelled by the rasengan. Also, unlike the chidori, it alters the shape of the user's chakra, not its nature. According to Kakashi, it represents the highest level of such an alteration.

The rasengan requires no hand seals to perform, instead relying entirely on the chakra control of the user. Once the user creates a stable rasengan, however, it becomes self-sustaining, so the user does not need to provide any more chakra after forming it. The force of the spinning chakra grinds into whatever it touches, causing major damage. The user can also release the spinning chakra, creating a violent explosive force at the point of contact. The one drawback of the rasengan, if it can be considered as such, is that it requires great chakra control. Of course, this will not be a drawback if the user has learned the technique, because they already possess the necessary chakra control. It can be a problem if some force is disrupting the user's ability to mold chakra. Unlike the chidori, there is no definite limit to the amount of times this technique can be used in a day. Because it uses far less chakra in comparison, it doesn't carry the same over-use risk as the chidori, either.

Despite the rasengan being a one-handed technique, Naruto actually uses three or more hands to form it (his one hand holds and spins the chakra while any number of clones create a shell with their hands). When Naruto accesses his tailed transformation states, he can form the rasengan with one hand by using demon fox chakra to form the shell, which likely provides better control and power. It also forms irregularly and grows as it mixes with the demon fox's chakra, giving it a purple color.

The anime makes light of the Spiraling Sphere by making it an "all-purpose jutsu". During episode 168, Naruto uses it to mix the ingredients for noodles quickly and evenly. In episode 177, Jiraiya uses it to create a path through a maze of houses, in order to see through everything behind the walls (inadvertently blasting through a woman's bathroom). While outrunning some ninja, Jiraiya uses it to as a propeller for a boat; in this episode, Naruto even commented that it had become a "cheap trick", even though he himself uses it at Jiraiya's insistence. In episode 194 of the anime, Naruto actually throws a Rasengan to free himself and his friends from a mansion. The last event is a significant deviation on the standard Spiraling Sphere, since it is normally hand-held, and may not be canon since these are filler episodes. He does, however, do something similar when first using the technique against Kabuto.

Though Kakashi doesn't use the technique regularly, he has demonstrated that he can do so. He also explains that the rasenagn is an incomplete technique, since the Fourth Hokage originally planned on combining his own nature manipulation with it. Such a feat, however, proved too difficult for both him and Kakashi. Naruto, however, might be capable of doing so.



hehehe.. it means.. sasuke can also learn rasengan.. hehehhe


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tsunade sais when jiraya is teachint the rasengan to naruto that the only two guys who've been able to master the rasengan are the fourth and jiraiya himself

since when can kakashi do it?


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remember that kakashi is the copy ninja.. he can easily copy it with his sharingan.. and the user must be great in chakra control.. and kakashi is gud and chakra control also... heheh i think sakura can perform it also but with not that great power.. hehe coz sakura is best wen it comes to manipulating chakra..


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remember that kakashi is the copy ninja.. he can easily copy it with his sharingan.. and the user must be great in chakra control.. and kakashi is gud and chakra control also... heheh i think sakura can perform it also but with not that great power.. hehe coz sakura is best wen it comes to manipulating chakra..


i doubt sakura has ever tried to do the rasengan, but if she did try to learn it she would probably be able to learn it faster then naruto did.


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she haven't try that.. but if jiraiya or naruto or somebody who knows how to do it and teach it to her maybe in just one 1 she can master it..


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lol... imagine everyone in the series learning and using it XD


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kakashi did pull off a rasengan but it didnt look complete compared to the real rasengan, and sakura could porb pull of a rasengan but you need to put a lot of chakra into it which sakura doesnt have much of so it would be a rly weak rasengan.


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Sakura using rasengan thats wierd


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Sakura using rasengan thats wierd

yea i agree. cant imagine her using it... in fact i cant really imagine the scenario where everyone can learn rasengan lol.


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Sakura using rasengan thats wierd

yea i agree. cant imagine her using it... in fact i cant really imagine the scenario where everyone can learn rasengan lol.


Imaging Chouji doin it hed think it was a dounut and eat it


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Sakura using rasengan thats wierd

yea i agree. cant imagine her using it... in fact i cant really imagine the scenario where everyone can learn rasengan lol.


Imaging Chouji doin it hed think it was a dounut and eat it


and tear open his mouth with that.


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