would sasuke have lead team 7 if he had stayed? what do you guys think

No. He never did it before and he´s too selfish to lead a team...he´s a great ninja, but lacks a lot of things a leader must have. I think team 7 is the only team that hasn´t got a leader: Shika´s team has Shika (lol), Team 8 has Kiba (and also Shino can be a good leader), Gai´s team has Neji...But in team 8:
-Naruto is just too careless and not respectful...and a bit idiot
-Sasuke only thinks in himself
-Sakura is...well, we all know how she is

After the time jump I think Sakura might be able to lead the team, as se has become a good ninja, cares a lot about her teammates and always thinks before acting. Naruto is someone you can trust when the situation is critical, but most of those critical situations are provoked by himself. Sasuke would just try to do everything on his own and forget about the team. Thanks goodness they have Kakashi looking over them ^^

correojon wrote:

No. He never did it before and he´s too selfish to lead a team...he´s a great ninja, but lacks a lot of things a leader must have. I think team 7 is the only team that hasn´t got a leader: Shika´s team has Shika (lol), Team 8 has Kiba (and also Shino can be a good leader), Gai´s team has Neji...But in team 8: -Naruto is just too careless and not respectful...and a bit idiot -Sasuke only thinks in himself -Sakura is...well, we all know how she is After the time jump I think Sakura might be able to lead the team, as se has become a good ninja, cares a lot about her teammates and always thinks before acting. Naruto is someone you can trust when the situation is critical, but most of those critical situations are provoked by himself. Sasuke would just try to do everything on his own and forget about the team. Thanks goodness they have Kakashi looking over them ^^

I think i have to agree......sauske is way to selfish to lead a team of three

whats ur basis of sasuke being selfish..? u dnt see that team 7 is the most balanced team.. yeah ur right.. other teams has some1 to lead there team.. but team 7 as u said dnt have.. coz there team coup ups the weakness of each other.. they work as a "team" they dnt need some1 to lead them coz there cooperation with each other is great.. even ur saying sasuke is selfish to be a leader.. but u what u dnt see is that.. he all thinks for his team..
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-protecting sakura..
- getting food for there group..
- deciding things what the group should do..
- and most important thing.. naruto and sakura has great respect with him..

and i say.. getting respect from person that surrounds u is an mportant characteristics of being a leader..

and another thing.. sakura and naruto has also great trust to sasuke.. so.. if he selfish and dont deserve to be a leader how come he gain the trust of naruto and sakura..

Hes not selfish hes just emo

	recca wrote:
	whats ur basis of sasuke being selfish..?

Sasuke is selfish because he does what he wants without taking into consideration the others. Like Naruto and Sakura´s feelings or all the people who was about to die trying to rescue him (Chouji, Kiba, Neji, Shikamaru, Naruto himself, Lee...). He rushed to the arms of the guy who killed the Hokage! How noble and trustworthy...

	recca wrote:
	u dnt see that team 7 is the most balanced team.. yeah ur right.. other teams has some1 to lead there team.. but team 7 as u said dnt have.. coz there team coup ups the weakness of each other.. they work as a "team" they dnt need some1 to lead them coz there cooperation with each other is great..

So, if they don´t need a leader, then how can you say that Sasuke would have lead them? This is a big contradiction on your part.

	recca wrote:
	even ur saying sasuke is selfish to be a leader.. but u what u dnt see is that.. he all thinks for his team.. e.g. -protecting sakura.. - getting food for there group.. - deciding things what the group should do.. - and most important thing.. naruto and sakura has great respect with him..

My favourite is #3: deciding things what the group should do..
Examples? I don´t remember anything, however I do remember how Naruto came up with all the strategy to free Kakashi from Zabuza´s Water Prison and Sasuke just did what Naruto told him. Or when Naruto saved Sasuke from Orochimaru in the Chuunin exam (Sasuke was just frozen with terror). Or when Naruto saved Sakura from Gaara and Sasuke stayed there staring without doing anything at all. Naruto must be a great leader, then...

	recca wrote:
	and i say.. getting respect from person that surrounds u is an mportant characteristics of being a leader.. and another thing.. sakura and naruto has also great trust to sasuke.. so.. if he selfish and dont deserve to be a leader how come he gain the trust of naruto and sakura..

Sasuke and Sakura also trust Naruto, most of all in the hardest situation, where one´s true personality arises. Naruto even trusts Hinata, she must be a great leader then. Do you think Hinata is a great leader? Exactly.

Answer this: do you think that Naruto and Sakura would put their lives in Sasuke´s hands? I strongly doubt it...And do you think that Sasuke and Sakura would put theirs in Naruto´s hands? Of course they would, as he´s done nothing more than demonstrate that you can count on him even in the darkest times.

Even with all this characteristics Naruto isn´t a leader because he lacks a lot skills. So saying that Sasuke would be...well, it should be obvious by now.

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	So, if they don´t need a leader, then how can you say that Sasuke would have lead them? This is a big contradiction on your part.

what i mean is that.. not the kind of leader that boss them around.. they work as a team.. but ofcourse there would be someone that would play as the leader..

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My favourite is #3: deciding things what the group should do.. Examples? I don´t remember anything, however I do remember how Naruto came up with all the strategy to free Kakashi from Zabuza´s Water Prison and Sasuke just did what Naruto told him. Or when Naruto saved Sasuke from Orochimaru in the Chuunin exam (Sasuke was just frozen with terror). Or when Naruto saved Sakura from Gaara and Sasuke stayed there staring without doing anything at all. Naruto must be a great leader, then...

oh ic.. ok maybe u didnt watch the episode that they were in the forest.. in the chunin exam.. when sasuke thinks of a plan to trap there enemy.. he gave a code to sakura and naruto but he know that naruto wnt memorise it for sure.. ( wow great idea) to make the long story short.. they catched the enemy bcos of that.. maybe u just missed it or just blinded to the fact that ur just a neji fan and u just the part were neji is..

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	and i say.. getting respect from person that surrounds u is an mportant characteristics of being a leader.. and another thing.. sakura and naruto has also great trust to sasuke.. so.. if he selfish and dont deserve to be a leader how come he gain the trust of naruto and sakura..

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Sasuke and Sakura also trust Naruto, most of all in the hardest situation, where one´s true personality arises. Naruto even trusts Hinata, she must be a great leader then. Do you think Hinata is a great leader? Exactly. Answer this: do you think that Naruto and Sakura would put their lives in Sasuke´s hands? I strongly doubt it...And do you think that Sasuke and Sakura would put theirs in Naruto´s hands? Of course they would, as he´s done nothing more than demonstrate that you can count on him even in the darkest times.

u strongly doubt it..? hehe.. doubting about what..? sasuke will trust naruto..? ofcourse.. he is his bestfriend y wouldn't he.. same goes with naruto and sakura.. they found family with each other.. oh maybe u dnt realise that coz ur mind is to crowded for neji.. cant accept the fact that there are other characters in the story that is same level or maybe higher than u idolise..

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	Even with all this characteristics Naruto isn´t a leader because he lacks a lot skills. So saying that Sasuke would be...well, it should be obvious by now.

oh here come the skill part.. heheh dnt u think sasuke iss skillful.. of course u dnt.. coz maybe ur narrow mind goes only around with one character.. hehhe

Oh I see, so all your arguments are just saying that I only think of Neji (even though in all the arguments I´ve given I haven´t compared Neji to Sasuke, not even once)

Now let´s quote a bit:

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	what i mean is that.. not the kind of leader that boss them around.. they work as a team.. but ofcourse there would be someone that would play as the leader..

yeah, because we´ve seen Sasuke do it soooo many times in the past that it´s obvious he´ll continue doing it (this was irony ).

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	oh ic.. ok maybe u didnt watch the episode that they were in the forest.. in the chunin exam.. when sasuke thinks of a plan to trap there enemy.. he gave a code to sakura and naruto but he know that naruto wnt memorise it for sure.. ( wow great idea) to make the long story short.. they catched the enemy bcos of that..

Good example. However you have only given one and I gave 3. Does this mean that Naruto will make a better leader than Sasuke? No. They both would be horrible leaders. Asume it.

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	u strongly doubt it..? hehe.. doubting about what..? sasuke will trust naruto..? ofcourse.. he is his bestfriend y wouldn't he.. same goes with naruto and sakura.. they found family with each other..

Oh, yes, they´re a big happy family. Ask Sasuke and he will tell you something like this:

	Sasuke in chapter 307, about Sai joining Team Kakashi wrote:
	One more pansy for the group, quite the fit I´m sure

	Sasuke in chapter 307, about his friendship bonds with Naruto and Sakura wrote:
	Having too may bounds causes one to loose focus. Weakening their strongest wish, their greatest desire.

	Sasuke to Naruto, explaining why he didn´t kill him 2 years ago in (chapter 307) wrote:
	-I chose to spare your life at nothing more than a whim of myne. (just a moment after)-You´re going to end up losing your life, all at a whim of myne.

What a happy family!

	recca wrote:
	oh here come the skill part.. heheh dnt u think sasuke iss skillful.. of course u dnt

Sasuke has a lot of skills but lacks a lot more. I´m not talking about jutsus, here, just about the skills necessary to become a leader, those same skills only Shikamaru had back in the first Chuunin exam and the rest lacked. After this, all the characters have demonstrated by becoming Chuunin that they have gained these skills. All except Naruto (who was training with Jiraiya) and Sasuke (who was training with the assasin of the Hokage). How can you explain that Sasuke has joined Konoha´s #1 enemy, the one who has sweared (and tried) to destroy the village? By offering him his body, Sasuke is helping him to destroy Konoha, which he sweared to protect when becoming a Konoha genin. Again, how trustworthy.

And now the last round of quotes with your best moments:

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	oh maybe u dnt realise that coz ur mind is to crowded for neji.. cant accept the fact that there are other characters in the story that is same level or maybe higher than u idolise..

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	maybe u just missed it or just blinded to the fact that ur just a neji fan and u just the part were neji is..

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	oz maybe ur narrow mind goes only around with one character.. hehhe

I really think you should apologise for this. I may disagree with you, but I haven´t insulted you once. If you can´t find the arguments to fight back just shup up if you can´t accept the facts, but don´t insult people who think differently from you.

You are giving a great example in the only forum you moderate by insulting people. Good job.

recca no need to start dissin i jus wanted opinions on who you guys think should have lead team 7 had sasuek stayed. and from what i read i think in time sakura would have become leader because she thinks of others b4 her self(exactly why shes a medic ) she thinks before she takes action (sumtin naruto doesnt do). naruto and sasuke might be hella strong but they jus dont display leadership skills.

hehehe ok i apologise to that.. heheh i was just in a bad mood that time.. coz i had a bad day.. heheh

no bak to the forum

	correojon wrote:
	Oh I see, so all your arguments are just saying that I only think of Neji (even though in all the arguments I´ve given I haven´t compared Neji to Sasuke, not even once)

hehehe i like that not even once.. hehe try to check the description of ur forum hehehehe but.. no no big deal hehehe.. its ok to compare..

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Quote: oh ic.. ok maybe u didnt watch the episode that they were in the forest.. in the chunin exam.. when sasuke thinks of a plan to trap there enemy.. he gave a code to sakura and naruto but he know that naruto wnt memorise it for sure.. ( wow great idea) to make the long story short.. they catched the enemy bcos of that.. Good example. However you have only given one and I gave 3. Does this mean that Naruto will make a better leader than Sasuke? No. They both would be horrible leaders. Asume it.

assuming can kill people.. hehhehe

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Quote: u strongly doubt it..? hehe.. doubting about what..? sasuke will trust naruto..? ofcourse.. he is his bestfriend y wouldn't he.. same goes with naruto and sakura.. they found family with each other.. Oh, yes, they´re a big happy family. Ask Sasuke and he will tell you something like this: Sasuke in chapter 307, about Sai joining Team Kakashi wrote: One more pansy for the group, quite the fit I´m sure Sasuke in chapter 307, about his friendship bonds with Naruto and Sakura wrote: Having too may bounds causes one to loose focus. Weakening their strongest wish, their greatest desire. Sasuke to Naruto, explaining why he didn´t kill him 2 years ago in (chapter 307) wrote: -I chose to spare your life at nothing more than a whim of myne. (just a moment after)-You´re going to end up losing your life, all at a whim of myne. What a happy family!

hehhe.. i see that ur pertaining to sasuke being in the side of oruchimaru.. hehe.. well ofcourse.. he is in the side of oru.. ofcourse.. it will be awkward that he would say.."oh hi there my x family.. nice to see u again.. i suggest u go away now.. im not here with oruchimaru now.." hehehe (now that a bit awkward.. heheh).. ok.. i just have some quesstion.. heheheh. how come sasuke thanx sakura for all sakura did for him b4 going to oru chimaru?...

y did sasuke consider naruto his best frend even though they dnt get along with each other well always competing..?

ok.. i'll explain.. sasuke is the type that they seldom show there real emotion.. like for example.. comedians and actors... u can see to comedians that they are always happy but deep inside they have problems but they still show that there happy.. she always tell sakura that she is annoying but deep inside she appreciate what sakura is doing ( ofcourse not all the time..) even naruto.. he always put down naruto.. but he has great respect for him.. it just like reverse pchychology.. u tell him that he is not gud.. it tends to make the person strive better.. ( but ofcourse not all time it works..) and that characteristic of sasuke i can relate to.. hehehe

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recca wrote: oh here come the skill part.. heheh dnt u think sasuke iss skillful.. of course u dnt Sasuke has a lot of skills but lacks a lot more. I´m not talking about jutsus, here, just about the skills necessary to become a leader, those same skills only Shikamaru had back in the first Chuunin exam and the rest lacked. After this, all the characters have demonstrated by becoming Chuunin that they have gained these skills. All except Naruto (who was training with Jiraiya) and Sasuke (who was training with the assasin of the Hokage). How can you explain that Sasuke has joined Konoha´s #1 enemy, the one who has sweared (and tried) to destroy the village? By offering him his body, Sasuke is helping him to destroy Konoha, which he sweared to protect when becoming a Konoha genin. Again, how trustworthy.

hehehe hey.. do i need to explain that..? everyone knows y he join oruchimaru.. sigh.. ok i will tell if thats what u like.. sasuke join oruchimaru coz his seeking power.. (and thats the story goes.. heheh that what the author lyk to happen.. hehhe) ok.. what is ur basis for a gud leader and not..? heheh.. and by the way.. sasuke's status is a missing nin.. for all we know.. missing nin levels are not just genin or chunin.. sasuke is in the side of oruchimaru now.. but if havent notice.. he dont used the forhead protector of the soundvillage.. he is with oruchimaru coz he needs his power.. oruchimaru has its agenda of its own.. and also sasuke has its own to.. and oruchimaru also know that.. his in his side but he is just after for power not to destroy konoha.. ok.. just give me instances were sasuke attack konoha..?

hehehhe.. ok.. sasuke is not the protagonist.. ofcourse u cant expect him to always to all the gud stuf.. naruto is the star of the story.. ofcorse his the main character.. he will do those stuf.. changing others from bad to gud.. making them realise.. bla bla.. in the end.. he will win.. havent u notice..? no one has beaten naruto in a fight? (wel ofcorse xcept sasuke)

hehe to kiba.. ok i know it out off the topic.. but for me.. u could lead team 7 by the way... ofcourse the most favorable choice will be sasuke and naruto.. (notice that no girl lead a team) and betwen naruto and sasuke..? well obviously.. sasuke is wiser than naruto.. so i think sasuke will be the leader..

I´m not goign to answer to all that, as I think it´s pretty clear for everyone except you. Evidence is there.

Just one little thing:

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	hehe to kiba.. ok i know it out off the topic.. but for me.. u could lead team 7 by the way... ofcourse the most favorable choice will be sasuke and naruto.. (notice that no girl lead a team) and betwen naruto and sasuke..? well obviously.. sasuke is wiser than naruto.. so i think sasuke will be the leader..

So Sakura can´t be the leader just because she´s a girl??
I´m not gonna waste my time arguing with someone who´s way of thinking is stuck in the XVIth century.

Just 2 words:
TSUNADE->HOKAGE

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heheh oh u saying its clear to everybody xcept me.. wel ok.. i think u just dnt convinced me enuf.. hehe like what u said its better to just shut up if i dnt have any gud arguments.. hehe then that makes u...... hehhe well ok u dnt want to answer that.. heheh thats fine..

heheh... now about what u said.. hehe.. here we go again.. im not questioning the capability of girls being a leader.. hehhe i know tsunade is a leader.. i already think of that bfore i posted it.. heheh.. and im sure ur wise enuf to let it came up.. and im was right.. hehe ok let me explain.. 1st.. im not basing to old centruy.. 2nd.. what is the conection of the belief of old century to the story any how..? hey.. naruto is a fanfiction.. only the authors decide what it gonna be in the story.. he he wants sakura to lead in the team. he can do that.. he decide.. we watch.. no matter everything he wants to happen in the story he can make it happen..

now about sakura,.. see this.. im comparing her to naruto and sasuke only.. and u.. u generalise it again.. u just watch what i post then comment on it.. but u dnt get the whole thing.. the topic says who could lead team 7.. i answer that.. then all of a sudden tsunade came out of the picture.. ( whoa were did she came from).. its just lyk.. yeah if tsunade is in neji team.. neji stil the leader.. in shika's team.. shika would still be the leader.. of course that wont happen.. 1st compare sakura and tsunade.. if sakura is as great as tsunade.. ofcourse i will say tsunade would be the leader.. but.. as just what i said.. team 7 is compose of naruto sasuke and sakura.. so.. "two words.. tsunade=hokage" is out of the picture.. so dnt join her.... just compare those 3..

and bfore u misinterpret again.. about "no grls lead a team" im not saying that girls are not capable of leading a team.. ofcourse in reality.. they can.. but what im saying is that i just notice it in the story.. that theres no team that is being lead by a girl.. and the story is way out of reality..........

he only said the tsunade hokage thing cause you kinda said that you think that girls shouldnt be leaders which is pretty stupid and it seemed like ur only reason why you didnt think that sakura shouldnt be leader. and he only mentioned tsunade once to make a point that girls can be leaders. i think that sakura should be leader for the reason i said in my last post.

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	and bfore u misinterpret again.. about "no grls lead a team" im not saying that girls are not capable of leading a team.. ofcourse in reality.. they can.. but what im saying is that i just notice it in the story.. that theres no team that is being lead by a girl.. and the story is way out of reality..........

and i no ur not tlkin bout in reality but you cant jus say sakura cant lead jus cause no other girls lead, that jus stupid. now i have to go back and say that tsunade is leading all of konoha and kurenai is leading team 8 and temari is a jounin(in the manga) and will prob be leadin a team soon so you need a bit of a better reason why you think sakura cant lead team 7 (in time).

Hey recca

I'd really appreciate that you wrote properly, so that reading you wasn't that annoying

(just don't use so many abreviations and this kind of stuff)

thinking about the leader of team 7, right now the most qualified one is sakura, and she actually has skills to become it.

The thing is that naruto is too impulsive, but I'm sure he will learn till the point that he is even able to direct a village (HOKAGE NARUTO GOGOO!)

Kiba leader? Hm.. not really. I see him kinda similar to naruto; he wouldn't make a great job, but I guess he could try.

yah i always thought that shino was leader overall in team 8 cause hes smarter than kiba (i think) and thinks things thru b4 taking action.

I love Kiba-kun, but he just isnt a good leader. Shino is the leader of team 8.

Heymdall wrote:

Hey recca I'd really appreciate that you wrote properly, so that reading you wasn't that annoying (just don't use so many abreviations and this kind of stuff) thinking about the leader of team 7, right now the most qualified one is sakura, and she actually has skills to become it. The thing is that naruto is too impulsive, but I'm sure he will learn till the point that he is even able to direct a village (HOKAGE NARUTO GOGOO!) Kiba leader? Hm.. not really. I see him kinda similar to naruto; he wouldn't make a great job, but I guess he could try.

hmm i think naruto will be the leader of the team (not now but later) ever since his return from the 2.5 years of training of jiraiya, hes matured alot and im sure soon he'll be able to be an efficient leader.

	HeartofSword wrote:
	hmm i think naruto will be the leader of the team (not now but later) ever since his return from the 2.5 years of training of jiraiya, hes matured alot and im sure soon he'll be able to be an efficient leader.

With time I´m sure he can be, just take a look at what happened with the Sannins when Sarutobi died, the first election to become the new Hokage was Jiraiya, who said that it would be better to have Tsunade in charge (of course, Orochimaru wasn´t even an option). The Legendary Sannins resemble a lot team 7, much more now that each one of them is training one of the members (Sakura has grown very similar to Tsunade, Naruto already was like Jiraiya and Sasuke is Orochimaru 2.0).

Also, if Sasuke would have stayed he wouldn´t have unleashed the power of the seal and so, he would have stayed weaker than Naruto. Add to this that after the 3 year gap Naruto would have been training with Jiraiya and becoming even better like he´s done and Sakura with Tsunade. They both would have learned skills devoted to leading, as Tsunade would have been training directly under the Hokage and Naruto under Jiraiya, the village´s first choice to become Hokage.
On the other side, Sasuke would have been training with Kakashi I guess...so the gap between Naruo´s and Sasuke´s powers would have become even greater (Kakashi is great, but he´s not at the level of a Legendary Sannin). Without the seal Sasuke is no match for Naruto when he uses just 1 tail of the Kyuubi...so imagine what would happen if he released 4 against Sasuke.

This way Sasuke won´t ever be the strongest in the team (maybe he would have become weaker than Sakura after her training with Tsunade). Shikamaru isn´t the strongest in his team, but he has incredible leading skills. However Sasuke´s leading or strategical skills can´t compare to Shika´s and Naruto and Sakura would have developed more their leading skills with their training....so, if Sasuke had stayed why would have he become the leader of team 7?

hehhehe.. now atlast i can agree with corroejon.. hehehe.. he has a gud point.. thats y ( i think ) that the author let sasuke go to orochimaru.. coz as u see.. the team 7 each of them is trained by the 3 sanins that somewhat represents ( uhmm how can i say this that wont be misinterpreted again.. like jiraiya and naruto.. have same characteristic.. ) all of those gennin only team 7 had the chance to be trained personally by the sannins..

i also agree to corrojon said about there many teams similar to team 7.. hehe and theyre also great teams.. hehhe i can add the team of kakashi.. obito.. and a girl ( i forgot her name.. the one that transplanted the eye of obito to kakashi..)..

and another thing.. i thought i clarified it already.. i'm not basing to the "girls cannot lead cos theyre not capable just bcos she is a girl" i just said what i notice.. but i compare them by there skill that they have( now before it leads again to something.. assume it without the involvement of the sannins.. cos after theyre being trained by the sannin.. each of them gotten strong.. and thier improvement make them as strong as the other.. or even better..)..

and also dnt get me wrong.. i know temari can lead a team.. as a matter of fact.. any girls can lead a team considering she is the most capable in her group.. thats y dnt get me wrong about what i said about the girl dnt lead a team..
coz being a leader dnt depend on the gender.. ( and dnt say that it contradicts again to what i'd said.. coz i explain it already.. )

i got one question.. who was the leader in tsunades group of four..?